KARL: And -- and he has also attacked, not surprisingly, Jack Smith, the special counsel on this. What -- what's your assessment of Jack Smith?
BARR: I -- I don't know him well, but by reputation, he is a -- he is a very dogged, aggressive prosecutor who will get to the bottom of what happened. And this is one of the things that leads me to believe that if there is a case to be made, it will be brought. Because I think the attorney general would not have -- would have selected another kind of special counsel if he wanted discretion -- more discretion exercised.
Like, well, yes, there is a case, but we don't want to bring the case here because there is a lot of reasons, you know, against the public -- you know, it might hurt the public interest to do it or something. But I think here the decision has been made that if there is a case, it will be brought. And I still think that that's the likely posture of the government.